Volcanic

Master V from on October 19th, 2024
cp-ur 1140 + cp-sr 510
48 cards

Notes & Combos

🔥Volcanic in Tenpai Meta 💀

Most obnoxious meta I have ever played. Yes, Volcanics can FTK and pivot to something defendable if they don't FTK, but prior to Tenpai I would say my rate of getting an FTK among the wins is ~25% where as ~75% of the wins are Snake-eye's Apo, Emperor pass, or handtraps bricking both and drawing starter/using GY OSS.

Now, however, I am looking at 50+% FTK rates among wins, in part cause Tenpai lets one go first, in part cause anti-Tenpai cards are not anti-FTK cards. It's difficult to describe how hollow the game feels when both players optimize to having none-games. As such, some notable changes to typical Volcanic lists:

  • The handtrap count is slim, they just do too little vs Tenpai who are ~40% of all my games.
  • Double Emperor is not good enough in this meta.
  • Volcanic Blaze Accelerator, as amazing as it is, does next to nothing vs Tenpai.
  • More Fire Eject to prevent Imperm/Gamma and up FTK odds for additional GY dumping

I conceptually hate having less Volcanic /Blaze Accel cards than Snake-Eye /Diabell (11 v 13); to me that's where I usually draw the line of "what's the main archetype". Now it's closer to Snake-Eyes, more specifically Snake-Eyes with a bloated FTK package rather than a Volcanic deck.

As for the banlist changes; Poplar to 1, for now, is barely noticable. Oak & Birch > 3 Pop: FTK odds are similar on paper (Oak + any send = S.Ash = FTK uninterrupted), but they are more frail and worse for regular plays in addition to being worse at playing through interruption. Turn 3's don't exist with Tenpai, so idk how much longevity is hurt by Poplar's Limit until Tenpai gets a Runic-like treatment.

Can't wait for the next list to ban Pot of Prosparity for Tenpai's usage instead of Tenpai itself cause it is still in shop.

Gamma is a bricky mess but at least in Diamond people misplay vs it all the time.

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Replays

ID: 282-051-848.

No new replays, same old FTK loop just Oak + (GY recurse from Eject/Horus OR face-up on field card) = S.Ash became more common.